also they all complained of a loose electric steering with less responsiveness and no feedback on drifting... so the DoUBle WiShBoNe argument now kinda quiestionableI hope second gear was defective just on the cars these guys borrowed.
Yea, this was never intended to be a track car. It'll turn into one after you drop a few grand into it, but never from the start. Each iteration of the Z has always been a grand tourer that you can canyon carve on your way to work versus a focused canyon car that you can drive to work (BRZ). Its probably the biggest pain point of new buyers expecting the z to be on bRZ level of track capability along with having the sophistication/buttoned-up feel of the Supra. This car is dead center between the two in each metric (imo) but and maybe $1-2k more in price then expected, but it is it what it is.Friend just got that same 1LE. excited to drive it on the track.
Sounds like the new Z is all Touring and not a track car.
They're getting these cars when us 'murican's are finished abusing them lolI hope second gear was defective just on the cars these guys borrowed.
Yes that total lack of feedback about what the wheels are doing isn't encouraging in a 400 hp RWD car.also they all complained of a loose electric steering with less responsiveness and no feedback on drifting... so the DoUBle WiShBoNe argument now kinda quiestionable![]()
Exactly. Good post.Yea, this was never intended to be a track car. It'll turn into one after you drop a few grand into it, but never from the start. Each iteration of the Z has always been a grand tourer that you can canyon carve on your way to work versus a focused canyon car that you can drive to work (BRZ). Its probably the biggest pain point of new buyers expecting the z to be on bRZ level of track capability along with having the sophistication/buttoned-up feel of the Supra. This car is dead center between the two in each metric (imo) but and maybe $1-2k more in price then expected, but it is it what it is.
I had the 370z before, so the plasticky nature of the cabin, reused materials from prev gen (like the brz, mustang, camaro etc all do, albeit this car has more), weight, heft, clunky manual, all are 100% welcome.
That Camaro review was interesting.That throttle house review was great, but it's not exactly going to make Nissan happy. Glad I have time to get my deposit back if I do decide to go elsewhere.
I just saw the track times in that review - slower than even a GR86. WTH was Nissan thinking...
You can track it but it needs aftermarket parts and will have plenty of it soon!Friend just got that same 1LE. excited to drive it on the track.
Sounds like the new Z is all Touring and not a track car.
Haha I agree . Discouraging for sure but let’s be real here. You will mod the car. After modding, it will be an overall a better carwatched both videos...a bit discouraging i must admit lol. makes me wanna think about mt supra more and more