Which Pilot Sport 4S?

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4181532752100Y XL BSW FO100Y XL BSW325354
41815126736100Y XL BSW FO100Y XL BSW GM325379
41815127040100Y XL BSW FO96Y SL BSW325380
41815127107100Y XL BSW FO100Y XL BSW BM325385
41815126982100Y XL BSW FO100Y XL BSW325396
127420127013100Y XL BSW BM100Y XL BSW342431

So I was shopping for some Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires on discounttire.com. I'm planning to simply get the same size as OEM, but then I found so many choices (see table above) with different prices.

Doing some research, I'll go for the 100Y XL (extra load) and avoid the 96Y SL (standard load) tires.

BSW seems to stand for Black Sidewall.

But I don't understand and can't figure out the other designations.

I see BM, FO, GM. I'm guessing these are specialized variants for BMW, Ford, and GM products, respectively. Does anyone know?

If I let the web site pick which tires, it picks the second to last row (second most expensive).

The other thing that's strange is that the web site shows a bunch of front/rear combinations, but not every combination. 🤷

Does it even matter?
 

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Front ItemRear ItemFront DesigRear DesigFront PriceRear Price
4181532752100Y XL BSW FO100Y XL BSW325354
41815126736100Y XL BSW FO100Y XL BSW GM325379
41815127040100Y XL BSW FO96Y SL BSW325380
41815127107100Y XL BSW FO100Y XL BSW BM325385
41815126982100Y XL BSW FO100Y XL BSW325396
127420127013100Y XL BSW BM100Y XL BSW342431

So I was shopping for some Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires on discounttire.com. I'm planning to simply get the same size as OEM, but then I found so many choices (see table above) with different prices.

Doing some research, I'll go for the 100Y XL (extra load) and avoid the 96Y SL (standard load) tires.

BSW seems to stand for Black Sidewall.

But I don't understand and can't figure out the other designations.

I see BM, FO, GM. I'm guessing these are specialized variants for BMW, Ford, and GM products, respectively. Does anyone know?

If I let the web site pick which tires, it picks the second to last row (second most expensive).

The other thing that's strange is that the web site shows a bunch of front/rear combinations, but not every combination. 🤷

Does it even matter?

It matters - each car company specifies changes in the compound. The Ford is probably for the Mach E so its compound probably has lower rolling resistance. Try the Continental Sport 2. Their tire is not an O.E. tire so the performance is not car dependent. The Continental is a newer design and it matches Michelin's performance at a slightly cheaper price point.
 
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none of these - i would go with the pilot super sport. check tire rack for additional info…
 
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none of these - i would go with the pilot super sport. check tire rack for additional info…
I really like the Pilot Super Sport. I had a set on my G37 back in the day, but it seems like Michelin does not make as many sizes, and they do the same OEM-specific variations. From the Michelin web site:

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i had the same problem with my g37 base. i had these on my ‘07 s2k - unbelievable handling on stock suspension.

265/35 on front, keep stock size on rear?

not sure if speedo sensor is on front or rear wheel or both? the ecutek racerom for 370z has a speedo adjustment for tire size, not sure if that is available for the new z.
 

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Pilot Sport 4 S is long in the tooth, Pilot Sport 5 is out, 5 S is around the corner.

Pilot Super Sports are older, think Pilot Sport 3 S - shocked they are still on the market.
 
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Pilot Sport 4 S is long in the tooth, Pilot Sport 5 is out, 5 S is around the corner.

Pilot Super Sports are older, think Pilot Sport 3 S - shocked they are still on the market.
This might be just the news I need to do what I do best: be lazy.

My 007s aren't worn out, and I was originally thinking of upgrading to the 4S after the 007s needed replacing. Now that I know the 5S is on the way, maybe I'll revive my lazy plan.

However, following advice from @Lenk and @thesilverbullet, I was able to find non-OEM PS4Ss in the desired sizes at tirerack.com. The trick is to search for the tire by size (two searches: front and back) rather than by car. If you search by car, the website puts some random package together for you, but searching by size, you can get exactly the tires you want.
 
 





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